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And you're just learning to play the

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guitar. Yes. Can you can you from a

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teacher? Do you play anything except

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Skiffl? Yes. Vanish and dance. Do you as

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well? Can you move on? What are you

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going to do when you leave school? Take

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up skiffl. No, I want to do uh well

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biological research. What you want to do

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is do what? Research into into germs.

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Yes. And to you

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I'd like to introduce Led Zeppelin to

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on bass guitar. John Paul Jones

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on drums. John Bonham

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guitar. Jimmy Paige.

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I'm myself, Robert Plan.

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I'm not Peter Pan, and I don't want to

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strut around with a bare chest and hair

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down to my back. That whole period was a

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period. It was a law unto its itself. It

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was like early pioneer days for excess,

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if you like. And I guess I've gone

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through the whole thing, come out the

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other side with a a smile on my face.

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Every now and again, somebody comes

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along and it kind of rocks the planet.

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I just believed in what I was doing. I

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didn't take prisoners along the way

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really.

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The whole thing about Led Zeppelin was

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it was so beautifully haphazard. It was

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really real.

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Their

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music blazed a trail across the world,

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but few classic rock bands divide

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popular critical opinion as much as Led

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Zeppelin.

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They were just a great band in every

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department. There's no one out there

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like them.

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Even if you didn't like the songs, even

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if you didn't like the entire aura that

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surrounded them, the hype and the

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nonsense and the grouping, you couldn't

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ignore the fact that these people were

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phenomenally gifted instrumentalists.

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They knew about their instrument.

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We needed an enemy when punk came along

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and bands like Led Zeppelin were the

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perfect target. This was actually a bit

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spinal tap 25minute guitar solos. That

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is exactly what we were against.

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Music corresponds to the drugs that

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they're doing. It was pot music. They

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were cool. Heavy metal is a kind of

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excuse for thinking clearly about what

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music is. Everyone calls them the

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godfathers of metal. They might be

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inspiration for it, but they weren't

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metal. They were a rock band. I never

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actually asked Jimmy what did he feel

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about the title heavy metal. I suspect

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he would just think it's nonsense.

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Jimmy, is this something that you've

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been interested in for a long time? Sort

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of folk side of things, because you're

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obviously normally associated with a

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rather different type of music, which is

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what? Well, rather heavier and rather

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more rocky than the sort of folks we're

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hearing today. I think it's all folk

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music actually. Yeah. If you'd listen to

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some of those, the instruments change.

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This wasn't something which was just

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long hair drug rock and roll, but this

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was serious music which you should take

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Combining the raw power and intensity of

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hard rock with the finesse of

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contemporary blues and the delicacy of

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British folk music, Led Zeppelin's

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revolutionary sound redefined rock in

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the 1970s and all that followed.

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The great thing about Zep was that it

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was like a huge sort of uh incredible

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one night stand. You know, it was like

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everything you could wish for on on the

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first fantastic free date. You know,

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everything thrown in, every sort of

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altercation, every

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lust and every swing and every bit of

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truth.

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The legend has been dogging me all the

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way along the line, but that's all

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right. Something to talk about. Who

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cares?

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It all began on January 9th, 1943

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in the blacked out, heavily rationed

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England of the war years when James

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Patrick Paige was born in H, Middle Sex.

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biological researcher were soon swept

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aside by his obvious talent for the

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guitar.

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The origins of Led Zeppelin can be

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traced back to the early months of 1968

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with the demise of one of the most

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prominent British blues bands. The Yard

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The Yard Birds were a part of the RandB

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boom. They had a really good reputation.

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eyes just hurt my brain. They were made

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up of of Keith Ralph and Eric Clapton

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and Jim McCarti and Paul Samuel Smith

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and Chris Jagger and obviously became

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very famous here and in America because

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they had three of the biggest guitarists

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Jimmy Paige joined the Arbers in mid66.

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leaving the session scene. Jimmy was one

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of the finest and still is one of the

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finest guitars in the world, but he was

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one of the most used and most sought

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after session guitarists on the scene.

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he's been on. He was even on things like

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Who Records and never credited probably

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playing with half the UK as

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for a brief period. Jeff Beck and Jimmy

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Paige were both in the Yard Birds and

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that was, as you can imagine, double

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firepower.

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I met Jimmy Paige through Eric Clapton.

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Yard Birds time. So I was always trying

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to find out what they were doing. From

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1966, under the shrewd management of

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Peter Grant, the Yard Birds had built a

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notable following in America. The one

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thing that counted for them was they

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were big in the States. The Yard Birds

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could tour in America and get big

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crowds.

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artists work for the manager. You know

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in America it was like oh so and so he

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owns them people. You don't own them.

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percentage of their money to do your

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very best for them.

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tours or some phenomenal, you know, of

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tours that used to last sort of 6 to 8

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weeks. And it wasn't until Peter managed

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with any money from an American tour.

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earned a reputation as a nononsense

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heavyweight manager. He was totally

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untrustworthy. I mean, he was sort of

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this size, you know, you'd need a camera

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with not only wide angle, but high

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definition to even capture him. He was

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so enormous. And he was kind of totally

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physically overbearing. And it's a bit

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like and he and he he affected to being

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a cottony. So when you were telephoned,

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it's a bit like being telephoned by God.

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You know, you can automatically stood

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up. Don't [ __ ] talk to me. It's my

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bloody act. I do bet I leave you

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anytime. You couldn't even get a

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starting line. You're going to tell me

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that you let I bet it wouldn't happen in

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Europe. I don't know how the guy got in

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the building. This isn't Europe or

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England. No, I can see that. It's so

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inefficient. You got to front him out

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with that terribly being British and the

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right verbal. It's what I call verbal

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violence. You know, you don't actually

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say, "I'm going to do this to you." But

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you intimidate them. That's what that's

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the game, intimidating them

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verbally. And I realized that if you

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were British, you could really do it

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because you could always out verbal them

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anytime you wanted to.

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You know, they have a great thing of

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calling you Paulo. Listen, pal. I go,

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like that? Address me like that? I

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hardly know you wretched little man. You

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know, and they think, "Fucking hell,

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what's that all about? They've never

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heard anything like it before."

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The Yard Birds got left behind when the

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purest RandB boom was giving way to the

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psychedelic thing coming from America.

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When the Yirds disintegrated, Jimmy took

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over the idea of doing another band and

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he originally called what became Led

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Jimmy Page was already playing Dazed and

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lineup. So he was obviously hatching

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something a lot different from the pop

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driving down Shbury Avenue or somewhere

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one day and I said, "What are you going

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to do? You know, you going to go back

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sessions or form a new band?" And he

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said, "Well, I'm going to get a new band

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together. Will you help sort it out for

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us?" You know, I said, "Fine." That's

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how we started. And what eventually a

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bunch of musicians became Led Zeppelin.

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I had in my mind exactly what what I

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wanted to try and get together and then

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it was just a matter of of searching

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around for the right personnel that

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could that could pull it off. Um, by

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that I mean, you know, for the sort of

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work that I'd managed to expand around

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the Yirdirds material cuz there was a

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lot of areas in there for improvisation

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and I'd come up with a lot of riffs of

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my own and ideas and, you know, passages

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and movements and things.

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Jones, who was a respected

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multi-instrumentalist, really

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specializing in bass, but he could play

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keyboards and everything. So, he came

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in. Jonesy called me up and said, "Hey,

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you you're getting a band together." He

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said, "I really like to be part of it."

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the session days. great keyboard player,

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great bass player, great intuition, did

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a lot of things that that you you

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wouldn't actually immediately recognize

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on a on a Zeppelin record, but a lot of

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his arrangements and a lot of the sounds

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and the keyboard things that were went

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on had a lot to do with John. You always

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have to have the quiet one. Uh, but I

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think he was very essential apart from

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the fact he was a brilliant bass player.

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And if you hear his his bass playing on

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dazed and confused, he's just makes the

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track the finger walking kind of style.

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He later would be introducing other

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sounds like meatrons and synths, you

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know, he wasn't just a guy at the back

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playing bass. He added a lot of color.

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With a basist on board, Jimmy now needed

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a front man. I wanted somebody who could

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really belt out the blues and well rock

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rock really but blues but also be able

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to handle other well you know the

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subtleties as well. So it needed

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somebody with a really really good vocal

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range and power. First of all he'd asked

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a guy called Terry Reed who turned him

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down because at that time he had a solo

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contract and a and a solo album coming

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out. So he wasn't going to throw in his

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lot with, you know, this new band which

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is forever known as the bloke who turned

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down Led Zeppelin.

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Paige found his man in Robert Plant when

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I was 19, you know. I mean, I was fed up

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at fixing the roads and working on a

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Saturday and a Sunday, you know. I mean,

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it was nice to meet anybody who and when

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I heard him play, it was such a

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celebration. It was great. He's somebody

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who could play the blues with an

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attitude that wasn't just black.

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It was very much London art school. That

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kind of attitude, the kind of aggressive

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angular thing. He is one of the finest

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vocalists to have come out of this

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country. He's probably one of the finest

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vocalists in the world. My parents

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wanted me to go into, you know, a

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profession, but I was already sold on

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music and there was a terrible

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um impass for quite a long time between

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us. But I knew I had to do this, you

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know. I mean, it sounds very romantic

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now cuz I could be selling cars in

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Warsaw really, you know, but I I just

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had to do it. I when you hear those

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voices crackling off the jukebox in some

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kind of

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uh smoky black and white cafe in 1962,

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you want to know where that's coming

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from and what it's like in that game and

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I'm in it. So I got there, you know, I

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always thought he sounded best on the

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acoustic stuff cuz then it was revealed

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that he wasn't just a screamer. He had a

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really good voice. Plant of course is

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the showman, but Jimmy had a way, I

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noticed this frequently when uh in the

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in the heyday of when he thought plant

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was going on a bit, he'd suddenly start

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playing, cutting him short in the nicest

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possible way and done so perfectly that

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nobody would notice. Um the same with

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Bonum. I mean,

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when's he going to stop?

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We were just very keen, very eager, and

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very driven. and uh and very um

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I guess full of it. You know, we're

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particularly bombastic, Ronzo and

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myself. And so um yeah, we were

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determined to the almost to the degree

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of uh nausea in our companions, you

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know, it was great. We were just meant

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to be going somewhere fast.

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[Applause]

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Drummer wise, there were a few tried

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out. I think Jimmy had the sound in his

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head. He wanted to carry on playing

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bluesbased stuff, but he wanted to have

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this real hard rock edge, essentially a

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new sound.

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[Laughter]

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Although I I had in mind a a very

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powerful drummer, you know, I wasn't

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ready for John Bonham, I must say. He

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was uh beyond the realms of anything

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that I could possibly have imagined, you

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know, it's absolutely phenomenal.

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He was stunning. I mean, I think each

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individual member of Zeppelin could have

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shone in any band. They were that good,

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you know, and John was an amazing

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drummer. He had power. I mean, immense

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power. I mean the the the the way he hit

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the kit was phenomenal. I remember

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Hendrick's one night coming up to Bonso

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in a club in New York.

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And in those days everybody used to jam.

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It was a place called Steve Paul Seam.

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There was Buddy Miles and uh Hrix Beck.

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There was loads of us. Me, Rod Stewart,

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people all over the place. And um he

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came over to Bonso and he said, "You

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know what?" He said, "You got to foot

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like a rabbit." Cuz Bonso's bass drum

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was so

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And we used to take the mickey out of

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people who used double bass drums

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because Bonsai just said, "What you want

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two for?" Without Bonsa, the band

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wouldn't have meant anything at all.

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Sure. I mean, he was the the emulsifying

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agent. He was everything. He was like

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the whole core of the thing. He was the

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guy who stopped it being just another

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rock band really. At least in its

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performance, the writing, I mean,

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Jimmy's approach

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was so unique and he's so unique. But I

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mean, Bonso's whole delivery was the

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thing that made it what it is. Jimmy

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Paige is the man who made that group

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work. Not because he's just a great

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guitarist, because he is, but he is he

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is the one who really had a sense of of

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of musical discipline. I don't really

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believe rock bands are democracies. I

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think rock bands are led by one or two

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people.

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The family atmosphere was very, very

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important to them. And you always have

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one member of the family who's slightly

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stronger than the other who says, "I

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think we should do this rather than

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that." I think Jimmy would would be the

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person they look to, but the other two

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will hate me for saying that. But um

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that doesn't matter. That that's my

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view. I think that that Jimmy was the

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musical intelligence which guided it

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along.

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The group's first rehearsal was in a

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London basement. We first played

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together in a small room in Gerard

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Street in a basement room in what is now

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Chinatown. And it was just wallto-wall

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amplifiers, you know, Marshalls sort of.

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There's a space for the door and that

427
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was it. And um literally was just

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everybody looking at each other. What

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should we play? So there was an old yard

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number called the train kept rolling

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which Jimmy said, well it's just like is

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and he go

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right. So 3 4

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and wow the whole room just exploded you

435
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know silly grins and oh yeah this is it

436
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man. Yes, you know it was it was pretty

437
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bloody obvious actually it was it was

438
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going to work from the first number. The

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first gig that the lineup played was

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October the 18th 1968 at the marquee.

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They were built as as the new Yard

442
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Birds. And there's one eyewitness

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account where the guy felt a bit short

444
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changed cuz it was only yard one Yard

445
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Bird on stage, but then like one song

446
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in, he he didn't care, you know? It was

447
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so good. Everything was going firing off

448
00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:26,080
in all directions. There was lots of

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tangents musically. Um, well, I started

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developing the use of me voice to match

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in with what Jimmy was doing with the

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guitar, you know.

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The great thing about earlier concerts

454
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that I went to was that it was perfectly

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clear that the other three were trying

456
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to individually play the other straight

457
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off the stage. Anything you can do,

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mate, I can do much better, which of

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course is the kind of tension musically

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in in groups which are great at

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improvising, you need. I mean,

462
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basically, I'm a rock and roll singer. I

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my early days I'm based on the the hips

464
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,240
of Billy Fury, you know, and the voice

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of Elvis. So to get this far down the

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line by taking these curves is quite

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exciting.

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[Music]

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Peter Grant's attempts to book the band

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on a tour of English clubs was met with

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total indifference. I think it was the

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yard bird stigma. People thought it was

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confusing the transition. There was a

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sort of stigma that the Yard Birds had

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burnt out, so this band couldn't be that

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good.

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They were rubbished. The record

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companies couldn't figure out what the

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hell all this rubbish was because I

480
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mean, you know, the idea of a white

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middle class lad singing about, you

482
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know, the impoverishment of Delta Blues

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is totally absurd. So, you you're not

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dealing with something which is pure.

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The idea of blues and purity sung by

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white middleclass kids, however skillful

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they are technically, is a nonsense.

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They're creating something of themselves

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and something which is meaningful to

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them.

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What we would call RandB is not what we

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call RandB now. It's just it was genuinely

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rhythm and blues. And they were one of

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the forerunners. When you hear Robert

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Plant perform a song and you believe it,

496
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,799
you never doubt that that's Robert Plant

497
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really trying to tell us something about

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00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,039
him. You never doubt that that's Jimmy

499
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playing his heart out. What he did was

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interpret blues and rock blues in a more

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aggressive, tougher way with more power

502
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,799
and more passion. That was Jimmy's idea.

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He felt that you could play it louder

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with more fight, more balls. They like

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cream had managed to combine something

506
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which was instantly appealing in the way

507
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,280
that all great popular music is. Uh

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00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,120
instantly connecting back to blues of a

509
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,720
very hard specific variety and yet was

510
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,039
trundling off at great rate in a new

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direction.

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Jimmy Paige had found his sound, but he

513
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:18,960
still needed to lose the yard bird

514
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,840
stigma. They decided to change the name.

515
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,120
They were nearly called the Whoopy

516
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:27,200
Cushion. Um, which obviously got

517
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,039
discounted and then there was talk about

518
00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:33,280
a super group with Keith Moon and John

519
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,679
Nwistle and all that bunch. I think it

520
00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:37,200
was NWizzle said, "Yeah, if we did that,

521
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,880
it' go down like a lead balloon or a Led

522
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,120
Zeppelin." So that's how they they

523
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:41,919
thought, "All right, we'll call

524
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ourselves that."

525
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,080
But the weird thing about them was they

526
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,039
didn't set the place on fire. When they

527
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,520
first started, they had a hard time.

528
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,400
They didn't make any effort to endear

529
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,480
themselves to the British musical press.

530
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,039
They quite quickly understood that this

531
00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:04,400
kind of music and this kind of

532
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,200
improvisatory related to the deep south

533
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,520
in the United States music would find

534
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,679
its feet in the United States, which is

535
00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:15,110
exactly what happened. Baby,

536
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[Music]

537
00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:21,120
please don't go. In 1968, Peter Grant

538
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,520
left England with a mission to secure a

539
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,000
world distribution deal.

540
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,280
America's where all the money is. I

541
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,799
mean, that's where the huge crowds are.

542
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:32,000
The UK is great, but if really if the UK

543
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,600
are going to be slagging you off every

544
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,000
week.

545
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,159
Yeah. I mean, he just felt the general

546
00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:40,720
vibe over here wasn't receptive to them.

547
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,799
And in the end, they went to an American

548
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,200
record label.

549
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,080
That label was Atlantic Records.

550
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,480
Rock and roll is a direct outgrowth from

551
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,320
the blues and from rhythm and blues.

552
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,679
And all those great English guitar

553
00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:03,679
players like Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton

554
00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:06,559
and Jimmy Paige

555
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:10,320
uh were heavily heavily influenced by

556
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,640
the blues. You know it's cold down here,

557
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,520
baby.

558
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,200
Ahmed Eert was one of the few people

559
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
that immediately got it. He actually got

560
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,320
it. Ahmed and his brother Neswi were

561
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480
legends of the music industry and they

562
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,039
used to go into these black clubs and

563
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,120
they they were moved by the music rhythm

564
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,840
and blues and a lot of these songs that

565
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,360
were sang by the slaves in the

566
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,360
plantation. So what they did is they

567
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:38,960
took dad's money and they opened up a

568
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,279
record label called Atlantic which was

569
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,480
basically a black RandB record label and

570
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,000
they start branching it out where they

571
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000
started taking in white artists. They

572
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,760
moved into England and they started

573
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,640
bringing the English acts over and Led

574
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Zeppelin became a very natural band for

575
00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,360
Ahmed to want and to insist on having.

576
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,919
Armit Ertigan gave him $200,000

577
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,640
which was huge for that time. That was

578
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,159
like the biggest deal anyone had ever

579
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:09,860
got.

580
00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:15,760
[Music]

581
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,360
We did almost everything on a handshake.

582
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,400
Uh we would eventually formalize it by

583
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,679
contract, but once we made a deal,

584
00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:28,480
verbal deal, that was a deal signed in

585
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,679
blood. Everything going to be all right

586
00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:34,400
this morning.

587
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,400
He had this confidence. He exuded this

588
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,080
confidence about he knew he had the best

589
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,240
band. And so all you got to do is give

590
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,679
me the best deal. You know, if you

591
00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:44,480
won't, somebody else will. We're having

592
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,559
lots of fun. When you're dealing with

593
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,120
artists and musicians, you got to be

594
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,720
there 24 hours. You can't do it like

595
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,240
you're selling you're selling these

596
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,840
glasses and at the end of day you say,

597
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,200
"Oh, [ __ ] it." You know, you put it on

598
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,880
the shelf and forget it. You know,

599
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,039
tomorrow I'll sell

600
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,000
50 cases of glasses. You can't do that.

601
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,159
You've got to be there for your artist.

602
00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:05,600
You got to believe in your artist and

603
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,200
you got to be there for them.

604
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,520
Led Zeppelin arrived at the end of the

605
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960
1960s, but they already sounded like the

606
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,720
future. A new era had begun. It wasn't

607
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,120
until we played at uh I think it was a

608
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,960
Filmore that suddenly we went in right

609
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,480
at the must have got in right at the

610
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,960
right time. They did their first gig in

611
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,440
America in December 68 and it

612
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,240
built and built and built.

613
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,440
The group's debut album Led Zeppelin was

614
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,559
recorded in 1968 at London's Olympic

615
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,000
Studios. It turned rock and roll on its

616
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
head.

617
00:26:56,159 --> 00:26:57,919
I had an idea of what exactly what I

618
00:26:57,919 --> 00:26:59,520
wanted to do with the first album and

619
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,279
the band. I wanted to make music which

620
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,720
was really uh that people would respect

621
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,480
and I knew it was good but I hadn't got

622
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,840
the faintest idea that it was ever going

623
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,120
to become as big as what it did

624
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,120
obviously. I mean and I and but I hadn't

625
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,120
even thought or or wished it to. I think

626
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:14,640
the only thing I wanted to do was to do

627
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720
something which uh which could stand the

628
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600
test of time.

629
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,200
[Music]

630
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,279
We just found something that um we had

631
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:26,640
to be very careful with this thing that

632
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,400
we'd found because we might lose it. But

633
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,279
it was remarkable just the power and I

634
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,200
was very intimidated. I don't know. I

635
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,039
mean maybe I had a complex or maybe I

636
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,600
was just neurotic or paranoid or

637
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,640
something like that. But I thought this

638
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,960
is all too much. Am I really here? Do I

639
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,880
belong in this sketch? And so really the

640
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,200
the record feels like that for me for my

641
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,840
contribution. you know, really as a as a

642
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,919
collection of tunes and a way to play

643
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:54,039
and expand. It was great.

644
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,279
The sound just kind of exploded in every

645
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,679
direction. You couldn't predict in any

646
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:03,679
given song what it was going to do,

647
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:05,840
where it was going. That was what was so

648
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,279
exciting. I mean, this was a real

649
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,920
adventure musically.

650
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,640
[Music]

651
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,480
There's a lot of contrast on the album

652
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,760
and that's one of the things that I

653
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,120
really wanted to get together which I

654
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,200
didn't think anyone else was doing and

655
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,919
that's and that was the uh but then

656
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:25,600
again you know that's the way it shaped

657
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,679
up but fortunately it shaped up the way

658
00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:29,840
that I you know hoped it was going to.

659
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,440
This one was unlike anything you'd heard

660
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,640
before because it was for a start rude.

661
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,480
It was great. I mean no one had gone

662
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640
that far. No one had really taken that

663
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,360
essence of the blues. The Stones had

664
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
obviously been doing it for years, but

665
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000
they'd somehow blown it up. This was

666
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,200
like pin you against the wall stuff. I

667
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,799
came to write the very first review

668
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,880
about Led Zeppelin. I mean, I just said,

669
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,480
you know, this is absolutely the

670
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,679
successor to Cream. These are formidable

671
00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:00,640
musicians, and it definitely um helped

672
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,159
to get them off the ground. I know

673
00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:04,480
because uh early on it was very

674
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,440
frequently quoted from

675
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,159
Younger people don't realize that whole

676
00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:13,600
a lot of that album isn't their own

677
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320
writing. He chose very well the songs to

678
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,399
cover. All the things that Jimmy did on

679
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:20,240
that first album, he made them into

680
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,080
Zebra songs. They were Z.

681
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,240
How many more times it was a bit naughty

682
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,919
cuz it was actually How Many More Years

683
00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:31,300
by Howling Wolf.

684
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:33,360
[Music]

685
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000
same melody and everything except they

686
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,360
just changed a few words and it was

687
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,440
called How Many More Times and given

688
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,840
like a supercharged riff. I mean, you

689
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600
shook me had already been on Jeff Beck's

690
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,440
album and that was an old Willie Dixon

691
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760
song, but it would appear on the sleeve

692
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,039
traditional arranged by Le Elyn, you

693
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,520
know. Um, the Stones had done that too

694
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,000
with Robert Johnson. It was a common

695
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,240
thing to take some old blues guys song.

696
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,840
He didn't rip him off, but he definitely

697
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,520
borrowed from the Muddy Waters in that

698
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,400
first album.

699
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,610
[Applause]

700
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:06,880
[Music]

701
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120
Through rigorous touring and word of

702
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,760
mouth, Led Zeppelin were rapidly raised

703
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,720
to Olympian heights.

704
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,679
You weren't saw a Zeppelin concert. You

705
00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:19,840
wouldn't hear the album. You would hear

706
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,679
a version of the album. And that's what

707
00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:23,840
made it so brilliant. Jimmy solos were

708
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,840
close, but maybe they weren't the same.

709
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,919
Uh Robert's singing was was maybe the

710
00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:29,279
same, maybe it wasn't. you would

711
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,159
actually be invited to another version

712
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:33,679
of it. It's great. It's like seeing a

713
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,760
film with three different endings. Their

714
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,540
gigs were very much rituals.

715
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:52,559
[Music]

716
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,600
Led Zeppelin reached instantaneous fame

717
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240
despite the almost universal negativity

718
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,799
of the press. The critics were lukewarm,

719
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,520
but we we played a storm. We had cues

720
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,279
right three times around the block and

721
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,440
stuff like that, playing in small clubs.

722
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,240
It was big. It was real hot. The British

723
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,360
musical press loved nothing more than to

724
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
destroy anybody. it thought it had

725
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,600
created.

726
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Now, and there are zillion examples of

727
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,159
that. What was difficult for them about

728
00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:26,720
Led Zeppelin was they hadn't created Led

729
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,720
Zeppelin.

730
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,679
They got slacked off as being brainless.

731
00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:35,600
Sometimes they would lump him in in a

732
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
kind of Black Sabbath role. The press at

733
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,559
that time

734
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,399
was very odd. When the press don't

735
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:47,039
derive a trend or a fashion or an idea,

736
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,120
they feel like they're having to follow

737
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,720
and the power moves from the media onto

738
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360
the band and the band decide who who

739
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,640
they're going to have interviews with

740
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,640
and who they're going to talk to. The

741
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,799
media don't like that. We I'm talking

742
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,200
about the general popular music press.

743
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
We didn't make them. We're not

744
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,279
responsible. Who are these guys? You

745
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,039
know, did they pay us to write about

746
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,840
them nicely? Uh, what I've just said is

747
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
totally lious, but it's absolutely true.

748
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,000
You won't find a rock journalist now

749
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,360
that would ever say anything bad about

750
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Zeppelin.

751
00:32:22,030 --> 00:32:26,799
[Music]

752
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,559
Where I give them credit is because they

753
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,559
didn't put out a single. They never

754
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:33,279
became overcommercialized. They didn't

755
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,000
release singles because they felt the

756
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
albums were supposed to be an entity

757
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,240
listened to from beginning to end. The

758
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,519
record company over here made the

759
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,279
mistake of actually pressing up and

760
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,440
releasing a single, but as soon as Peter

761
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Grant got wind of that, he clamped down

762
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,640
on it. To us, it was like, you know,

763
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,320
taking away a very important tool in

764
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,640
breaking a group, but we were not

765
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120
allowed to put out singles.

766
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,200
Uh, he did not want them to appear on

767
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,519
television, which made it also very

768
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,840
tough to promote. They didn't do

769
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,519
anything the the right way.

770
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
During 1969, while on the road, the band

771
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,159
recorded their second album, Led

772
00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:19,120
Zeppelin 2. It was that second album

773
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,960
that did it. That's the one that really

774
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,320
broke them in in the UK.

775
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,679
A whole lot of love. And that was the

776
00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:26,799
track where it all kicked off. I

777
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,399
remember when that came out. I mean, it

778
00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:30,880
was unlike anything else. There have

779
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,640
been there were heavy metal sounding

780
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,120
tracks, but not like that. Then you've

781
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,799
got, you know, the orgasm bit halfway

782
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,550
through. It's like

783
00:33:40,550 --> 00:33:43,640
[Applause]

784
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,279
and that was on the jukebox in my local

785
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,080
pub. You know, you'd walk in and uh that

786
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,519
section would be on and there would be

787
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:55,600
all these B sitting around drinking with

788
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,180
that going on. It was startling.

789
00:33:58,180 --> 00:33:58,390
[Applause]

790
00:33:58,390 --> 00:34:05,039
[Music]

791
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,159
By 1973, under the management of Peter

792
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,879
Grant, Led Zeppelin were breaking box

793
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:14,359
office records.

794
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:16,560
One of the problems about all rock and

795
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,079
roll groups of that era is finding

796
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,079
someone they could trust as their

797
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:25,200
manager. It was chaos.

798
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,320
They needed someone to hold their hand.

799
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,399
What Peter Grant did, partly because of

800
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:32,240
his size, which one should never be

801
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:34,639
underestimated, was he gave them a

802
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,440
feeling of security. He was someone who

803
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,159
would get them through whatever problems

804
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,159
came along. And of course, there are

805
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,240
legions of problems. You know, if you've

806
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,359
got a cash cow group called Led

807
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:49,760
Zeppelin, you've got record companies.

808
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,359
It's mostly run by criminals and

809
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:53,599
halfwits and certainly gangsters and

810
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,440
probably the mafia. You got to be

811
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,599
protected against these awful people who

812
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,400
is going to protect you. Then you've got

813
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880
every promoter in every city that you

814
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,040
are going to who is damn certainly going

815
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,920
to rip you off. So again, you need a

816
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,560
kind of strong man who's going to say,

817
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,200
"Give me the money now." You had people

818
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,240
inside this building selling poses and

819
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,599
you didn't know anything about I didn't

820
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:18,960
know about it. As soon as we found out

821
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,599
about it, we stopped it. Yeah. As soon

822
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,880
as we found out about it and told you,

823
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,880
you stopped it. All right. So, you walk

824
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,320
away and let them get away with it, they

825
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,920
tell everybody else. Well, how much

826
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,320
kickback were you getting? None. I knew

827
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,760
nothing about it, right? Then you're

828
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,960
going to have like it's going to be a

829
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,079
chain. You're always going to have

830
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,000
trouble. Once you establish that, people

831
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400
know not to [ __ ] with you then. They

832
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,079
know not to [ __ ] with you. So long as we

833
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,839
screw you an extra few bob out of the

834
00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:46,560
group.

835
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,160
You're the [ __ ] controller of the

836
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,920
date, you silly, aren't you? Well,

837
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,280
that's like saying that anybody that

838
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,880
jumps on a stage, I'm responsible for

839
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,160
it, too. No, don't be sus. No, it's your

840
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,280
responsibility to see that the

841
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,079
concessionire the building you rented,

842
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,160
you rented it and you control it isn't

843
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,640
selling [ __ ] pirate posters. You do

844
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,000
the music and I'll take care of

845
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,800
everything else. I'll do the record,

846
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,240
promote it. I mean, that's what a

847
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,800
manager does, but it really was that

848
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,880
sort of division. Don't even think about

849
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560
anything else. I won't bother with

850
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,160
anything else, you know.

851
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,400
I'll I'll tell you what, you know, what

852
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,640
what's possible, what you can do, this

853
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560
sort of thing. But you just take care of

854
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,280
the music, take care of the band, and

855
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,480
you know, you won't have to worry about

856
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,240
anything.

857
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,280
I saw Peter Grant with one particular uh

858
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,680
promoter. He was going to kill him. And

859
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,560
he said, uh, I want the money now. And

860
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,560
he he made the promoter go and get the

861
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,720
cash. And he counted it in front of him.

862
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,599
I watched Peter doing it. And that was

863
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,760
really awesome to see. Awesome is the

864
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,839
right word for once. And I said, "Well,

865
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,920
I've come for the $1,000 you owe me."

866
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,839
And he said, "You're not getting it." I

867
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:56,880
said, "Well, you ain't leaving this

868
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,480
caravan, pal, without you don't give me

869
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,000
the $1,000." And he pulled this thing

870
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,640
out for us big revolver on there, you

871
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,920
know. I said, "I don't care what you

872
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,079
got. You got to pay us $1,000." He said,

873
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,160
"I'm going to shoot you." I said, "I

874
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,440
very much whether you're going to shoot

875
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,440
me for $1,000." I said, "Don't be so

876
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,599
[ __ ] cheap." Whether they liked him

877
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,200
or not, I don't know. Whether they

878
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,599
trusted him or not, I don't know. They

879
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,560
knew then um that he did very silly

880
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
things with their money, but all

881
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,880
managers did very silly things with

882
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,520
their money. A lot of managers in those

883
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,240
days didn't discuss money with their

884
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,560
artists. Not necessarily because they

885
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,880
were ripping them off or whatever, but

886
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,720
they themselves were very naive. They

887
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,400
didn't understand the business

888
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,920
themselves. I mean, they didn't

889
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,599
understand the the way the Americans

890
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:44,000
worked or the transportation costs or

891
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200
the the taxes, the withholding taxes.

892
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,599
He'd do anything for that band. He was

893
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:52,560
one of the first artistdriven managers,

894
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,560
you know? I mean, how he would stand up

895
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,480
today, who knows? But as far as I was

896
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,040
concerned, his his benchmark was he

897
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,880
fought for the artist.

898
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,200
He was brilliant in how to present the

899
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,160
band and he'd say don't do this, you

900
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,440
know, or don't do that or we ought to go

901
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,119
here but then we, you know, won't go

902
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,280
there and then then we now we'll go here

903
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,280
and I think this is a good time for

904
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,520
this. He that was how he operated with

905
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520
us

906
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,839
throughout their musical career. Led

907
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:26,000
Zeppelin were dogged by a roguish

908
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,760
reputation.

909
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,400
It was the ultimate rock and roll

910
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,079
excess. They used to hire the boat at

911
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,800
this Boeing 720

912
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,680
jet costing like $30,000.

913
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,520
It was all decked out. It had a bed in

914
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,359
the back. There was like they had a

915
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:44,079
woman on the tour for the sole purpose

916
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,640
of dishing out coke. This was someone on

917
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,000
the payroll. We did have parties

918
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920
with the band like a musician like they

919
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,520
get up at midday or whatever time they

920
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,680
get and the whole day is built up to

921
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560
like that 8:00 when somebody says the

922
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
house lights go out it's Led Zeppelin

923
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,480
and the concert goes like that. So the

924
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,640
whole day is a build from getting you

925
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,880
just can't go off at the end of the

926
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,240
night can you and go get you know Agatha

927
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,000
Christie out or something and really you

928
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,119
can't do that.

929
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,599
It was pretty common place amongst bands

930
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,839
on the road. I'm surprised we got quite

931
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:22,560
I mean the Who the Who used to use

932
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,720
explosives, you know, how how do we get

933
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,920
the the rep?

934
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:33,400
Uh it was pretty universal.

935
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Um we were in some pretty awful hotels

936
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,920
to be honest. you never recognize hotel.

937
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,960
And after a while, they used to get so

938
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,560
that the manager would actually put you

939
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,880
in rooms that needed redecorating so

940
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,920
that he would get them paid for.

941
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,320
John Bonham was just like he was on a

942
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880
permanent kind of club 1821 holiday. You

943
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,920
know, it was that kind of excess with a

944
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,000
great deal of wreckage.

945
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,119
Bon was on a rampage one day and he

946
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:06,560
smashed everything. He even got the

947
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,480
security into helping smash the pool

948
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,880
table cuz he couldn't do it on his own.

949
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,920
And and the um you know before we were

950
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,920
checking out they came up and and the

951
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,480
guy happened to be English

952
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640
and he's looking at all the damage and

953
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,480
he said to Bonsa kind of looking down

954
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,240
his nose at him very smugly, "Oh, you

955
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,960
left the mirror." Bons did I? I'm sorry

956
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,520
about that. Smashed it straight in front

957
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,359
of him.

958
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:32,640
You know, I mean there was absolut they

959
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,160
were absolutely demolished if they were

960
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,880
done. But I mean it wasn't every night

961
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,200
when we went to pay the bill. The

962
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,880
manager asked about all the damage was

963
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,240
said just give us the bill for the

964
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,760
damage. So we paid for the damage and he

965
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,040
was like it was like seething. And Peter

966
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,240
said look you've been paid for the

967
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,320
damage. He said you know what what's the

968
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,400
big deal? And he said it's not that. He

969
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,400
said it's just that you guys can do what

970
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,119
you want. He said he said I like working

971
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,040
in this hotel. He said I hate this. I'd

972
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,440
love to do what you do. He said, "Pick a

973
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,599
room and give me the bill." And he did.

974
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,760
The guy went down, threw everything out

975
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,359
the window, smashed the windows, and

976
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:12,240
gave us the bill, but got the cash out.

977
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,560
That was it.

978
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560
But there are differing opinions on the

979
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,000
legendary tales of rock and roll excess.

980
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,480
I was teleoned by Peter Grant. He said,

981
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,480
"Well, you know, the lads are going on

982
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,040
tour and we want you to come on tour in

983
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,040
the plane and we want you for at least

984
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,520
three months." Then very slowly the

985
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,680
truth emerged. Jimmy was not wanting to

986
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,599
go on tour and he was dreading it

987
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,160
because life on the road is not a great

988
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,920
deal of fun. I mean, it's an

989
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,079
unforgettable experience for me for all

990
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:46,400
kinds of reasons. Not the least of which

991
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,280
was, it's almost impossible to imagine

992
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,760
four people who just performed before

993
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,040
50, 60, 70,000 people coming off stage.

994
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,839
What do you see? Totally exhausted. They

995
00:41:57,839 --> 00:41:59,520
don't want to see anybody particularly.

996
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,960
They don't want to talk to anybody.

997
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,640
They're not interested in the groupies.

998
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,839
They're not interested in all this

999
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:05,680
mountain of food that the good promoter

1000
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,079
has laid out. They just want to sit very

1001
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,160
quietly. They don't want to get drunk or

1002
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,119
get drugged. Sit very quietly and maybe

1003
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,480
read a book, read a newspaper and have a

1004
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,079
cup of tea. I remember Jimmy was

1005
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:21,359
ordering cups of tea and go home to bed.

1006
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:23,280
And it wasn't that I was kind of

1007
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,800
expecting late night parties as it were.

1008
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,240
It never crossed their mind that there

1009
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,160
would be a late night party. They were

1010
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160
monklike.

1011
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,680
Peter Grant stories. That was all part

1012
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,920
of the great big Zeppelin myth. And that

1013
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,240
was brilliant because it it was the

1014
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,480
forerunner of what McLaren did with the

1015
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,640
pistols. You know, it was good copyright

1016
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,040
and and you know something when we read

1017
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,880
the enemy and the melody maker in those

1018
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,720
days or or the Rolling Stone and you

1019
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,160
hear the stories about the band or two

1020
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,079
you go, I'd love to be doing that

1021
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,119
myself. That's fantastic. The neatest

1022
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,359
was Robert Plant. I mean everything

1023
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:04,240
beautifully neatly laid out. John Paul J

1024
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,400
little photographs of his wife and

1025
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,599
children and suddenly you saw four

1026
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,599
wonderful musicians didn't really want

1027
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,520
to have anything to do with this kind of

1028
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520
mad circus which surrounded them

1029
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,000
although they knew that paid their wages

1030
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,630
and they were committed to it.

1031
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:22,880
[Music]

1032
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520
For the composition of the 1970 album

1033
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,240
Led Zeppelin 3, Jimmy Paige and Robert

1034
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,560
Plant retired to a remote cottage in

1035
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,520
Wales. The result was a more acoustic

1036
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,319
sound. Zep 3 was, you know, all

1037
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,160
bandwritten one way or another, you

1038
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,560
know. Uh, so that's the difference

1039
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,319
immediately. But I I know that Zep we we

1040
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:48,880
really did attempt to break the mold of

1041
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,640
the previous Zeppelin albums to make

1042
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
some to create something as diverse as

1043
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,119
possible to really I suppose to try and

1044
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,960
achieve you know to try and broaden what

1045
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,920
we could do. Um it's a long time ago. I

1046
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,440
mean I was only about 20 212 then. Um,

1047
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,280
but I just see the kind of combination

1048
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:13,280
of electric and acoustic and,

1049
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,440
you know, the sort of pastoral mixed

1050
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,720
with the spook as being a great, you

1051
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,720
know, it's a it's a great dynamic for a

1052
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,440
collection of songs.

1053
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,359
The third album got slagged off a bit

1054
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:28,000
having this predominantly acoustic

1055
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,319
mood, but I thought that was a good move

1056
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,319
cuz it didn't typ cast them as a hard

1057
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,000
rock band. And then when they came out

1058
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,079
with the fourth album, which was the

1059
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:37,839
Monster, that made it all the more of a

1060
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:40,839
peak.

1061
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Led Zeppelin 4 was the band's most

1062
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,720
musically diverse release. It was to

1063
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,200
become one of the bestselling albums in

1064
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,400
rock history.

1065
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Black Dog and Rock and Roll, I mean,

1066
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,440
they still sound incredible for their

1067
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,640
locomotive unstoppable power. They're

1068
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,720
the quintessential hard rocking Led Zepp

1069
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,400
Zeppelin songs. That would have been

1070
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,560
enough to establish them back on that

1071
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
level. But the album also had Stairway

1072
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,040
to Heaven.

1073
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,760
The idea of what I had there was to

1074
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640
start it with this this acoustic piece

1075
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,480
and then and then for it to build almost

1076
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,800
like an adrenaline rush by the end. And

1077
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,920
so in fact, it actually gets faster

1078
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,839
from beginning to end. It gets it

1079
00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:33,560
increases in tempo.

1080
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,119
By 1975, Led Zeppelin had become the

1081
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,440
most commercially successful rock band

1082
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,400
in the world. For millions of fans, they

1083
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,440
would come to epitomize the 1970s like

1084
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,680
no one else.

1085
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,810
[Applause]

1086
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:56,079
Meds in there were so huge. They were

1087
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,319
kind of like part of the furniture. If

1088
00:45:58,319 --> 00:45:59,839
you were cool and you were happy and you

1089
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:02,480
loved leader as the audience got bigger

1090
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,319
and the album sold more, you knew what

1091
00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:06,319
to expect and then it was real fervent

1092
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:08,720
worship.

1093
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,480
[Music]

1094
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,200
The biggest gig ever was 73 in Tampa,

1095
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,760
Florida. When they played to 56,000 that

1096
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,640
hit the record books, they really were

1097
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,520
beyond huge in America in those days.

1098
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,599
There wasn't the massive pyro technics,

1099
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,200
there wasn't the massive light shows.

1100
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,839
was just purely the band with some good

1101
00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:29,920
lights and it just goes to show how

1102
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,800
powerful that band were.

1103
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,640
They reached a pinnacle where whereby

1104
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,800
they they didn't need to prove anything

1105
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,880
to anybody. They didn't need to prove

1106
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,720
commercial success. They didn't need to

1107
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,560
prove themselves musically. Those

1108
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,480
accolades had come progressively over

1109
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,480
the years. They didn't need to prove

1110
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,960
anything. So when you get to that point,

1111
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,880
then actually you become somebody

1112
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,160
totally different.

1113
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,379
[Music]

1114
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,040
The 1975 double album Physical Graffiti

1115
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,760
gave full reign to the quartet's diverse

1116
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,720
interests. Sellout appearances in the UK

1117
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,119
followed its release, but rehearsals for

1118
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:13,359
a world tour were abandoned when Robert

1119
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:15,599
Plant sustained multiple injuries in a

1120
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:19,200
car accident. Around 76, the cracks were

1121
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440
starting to show. Jimmy was starting to

1122
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,440
get into the hard drugs

1123
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,880
and Bonsai was like a total alien. Now

1124
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,319
for your drummer to be permanently

1125
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:32,400
pissed is not good. It's like your

1126
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,640
engine room's going to pack up and you

1127
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,640
know one gig he collapsed halfway

1128
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,160
through the set and had to be carted

1129
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,800
off. So Led Zeppelin would were seen as

1130
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,880
this huge band but they were treading

1131
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,640
water and and things weren't going very

1132
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,560
well. They'd lost their kind of

1133
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,599
untouchable god status.

1134
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:54,560
By 1977, Led Zeppelin began their

1135
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,000
rescheduled US tour. Then, Robert Plant

1136
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000
had suffered a terrible tragedy when his

1137
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,920
son died from an infection.

1138
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,520
By that time, his family meant a lot

1139
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,040
more to him than all that rockstar

1140
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,040
stuff. Anyway, he was a family man

1141
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,920
really, and that was an

1142
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,720
awful tragedy.

1143
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,560
The remaining dates were immediately

1144
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200
cancelled amid speculation the band

1145
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,520
would break up.

1146
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
As Led Zeppelin took a back seat, the UK

1147
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,240
was shaken by the arrival of punk.

1148
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,960
Punk totally altered the perception of

1149
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,359
what a band could be.

1150
00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:39,839
Led Zeppelin did look like old dinosaurs

1151
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,720
and they were then relegated to being a

1152
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,319
band with a huge following but in the

1153
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:46,559
manner of you know the people who go and

1154
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,700
see Iron Maiden.

1155
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,870
[Music]

1156
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,960
September 1980 Led Zeppelin were

1157
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,520
rehearsing at Jimmy Page's UK home in

1158
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,920
preparation for an American tour when

1159
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,160
the tragic death of John Bonham brought

1160
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,720
the 12-year reign of Led Zeppelin to an

1161
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,720
end.

1162
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,079
Apparently he got up and had four

1163
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,200
quadruple vodkas

1164
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,680
cuz he he demanded they stop off for

1165
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,400
breakfast on the way to the rehearsal

1166
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,520
and breakfast was ham roll and four

1167
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,200
quadruple vocas and he carried on

1168
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,680
drinking all day and that evening was

1169
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,880
sort of put to sleep and

1170
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,920
he choked on his own vomit.

1171
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
We were just rehearsing for a tour to go

1172
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,319
to America. I think tickets had been

1173
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:43,720
sold even.

1174
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,280
So

1175
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,920
whatever had gone on had been put aside

1176
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,400
and you know

1177
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,319
all ready to ready to go again.

1178
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,760
When Bonham died, then something went uh

1179
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,359
well, they really effectively stopped

1180
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:02,800
playing, but that was one reason why

1181
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,319
they couldn't really play anymore

1182
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:06,559
because they were all, you know, they

1183
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,680
were all part of the same family. The

1184
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,760
demise of Led Zeppelin was pure and

1185
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,240
simply the death of John Bonham. They

1186
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,920
would never really get over it. That was

1187
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,680
it. The end of Zeppelin. Nobody really

1188
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,240
knew what to do. And I didn't want to

1189
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:23,760
join another band. And I mean after

1190
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,520
Zeppelin, you know, it was pretty hard

1191
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,920
act to follow.

1192
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:32,480
During the following decades, Jimmy

1193
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,559
Paige and Robert Plant renewed their

1194
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:36,319
longtime partnership for several

1195
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:38,559
projects, some of which by their own

1196
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,680
admission were shambolic. When Led

1197
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Zeppelin ceased, it didn't mean to say

1198
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,720
that I couldn't sing anymore. It just

1199
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,160
meant to say that I couldn't sing in

1200
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,559
that set of circumstances.

1201
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,200
In 1994, Robert Plant received an

1202
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,440
invitation from MTV to play on the

1203
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,160
network's Unplugged series. He invited

1204
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,720
Paige to share the stage with him. John

1205
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:02,160
Paul Jones, however, was excluded.

1206
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960
I read about it in the papers to be

1207
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,160
brutally frank. Um, I don't really know.

1208
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,640
Uh,

1209
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,680
I mean, you know, what I'd have done had

1210
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,800
they'd have asked, I don't know, but

1211
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,920
they didn't. So, you know, good luck to

1212
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,680
him.

1213
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,280
But I don't really know much about I

1214
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,319
don't know anything about the project

1215
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:26,319
project except what I've read. Whether

1216
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:30,400
people like it or not, it's happening.

1217
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,800
It's pretty sharp. It's pretty virile.

1218
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,720
It's quite reflective and it's cheap.

1219
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:39,599
[Applause]

1220
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:42,599
Our

1221
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,319
main concern was if we could sing songs

1222
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:47,839
from the past, we should create songs

1223
00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:50,640
for the future. And as a singer and a

1224
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,079
guitarist, we had a lot of affinity in

1225
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,119
the past and uh and that we should we

1226
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,760
should make it our own neutral dual

1227
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,440
project.

1228
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,119
In 2007, 39 years after their first

1229
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:08,000
rehearsal, Led Zeppelin reunited for a

1230
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,240
one-off performance at London's O2

1231
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:14,319
Arena. A reported half a billion fans

1232
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:16,319
attempted to purchase tickets. They're

1233
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:18,240
doing this one-off concert um in memory

1234
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,200
of Armitan, I believe, and have all

1235
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,000
sworn. I'm not sure I 100% believe it

1236
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,240
that they're not going to go on tour. Um

1237
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:28,800
I'm hoping to get tickets. I'll go. I'm

1238
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,839
not a huge fan of of some of the

1239
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:34,160
nostalgia tours. I mean, they're very

1240
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,920
talented people. You know, they all know

1241
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,400
how to play their instruments. You know,

1242
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,160
whether Robert can sing the same as he

1243
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,559
used to sing back then. I mean, he's

1244
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,280
about 60, so

1245
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,040
I would think it would be hard going for

1246
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,839
him. Absolutely over the moon. It's it's

1247
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:55,200
it's scary. Good. Scary. It's nice to be

1248
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
out so late without having a nap.

1249
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,440
The surviving members of Led Zeppelin

1250
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,920
were joined by John Bonham's son, Jason,

1251
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,119
on drums. I spoke to Robert about it

1252
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,119
just recently because we hadn't spoken

1253
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,599
since the announcement. And I said, "How

1254
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,480
do you feel?" He said, "I'm a little um

1255
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,839
overwhelmed and and kind of just can't

1256
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:18,720
comprehend the size of the the people,

1257
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:20,880
the interest. This something that I did

1258
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,200
such a long time ago is still held so

1259
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,480
highly by so many. It's very very um

1260
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,400
humbling, he said. So it is it shocked

1261
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,319
him. I think Jimmy always thought that

1262
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:34,240
they were the size they were, but this

1263
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,720
has really documented it. So thanks to

1264
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,119
everybody. It's uh my mom was in tears

1265
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,040
when she, you know, the announcement. So

1266
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,319
thanks for the support. You know, it's

1267
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:44,240
wonderful.

1268
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:47,680
It was just so spellbinding and it was

1269
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,839
partly fearsome. Terrible is a good

1270
00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:51,599
word. You know, it was great cuz it did

1271
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:54,400
work and it was real and it was true. I

1272
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,680
thought that we'd be castigated no

1273
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,520
matter how good we were, but we weren't.

1274
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,720
Awesome. Fantastic. Let's keep going.

1275
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:02,559
Wow.

1276
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,119
Zeppelin, I think, in the end, couldn't

1277
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,200
resist

1278
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,520
the question which was frequently put to

1279
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,160
them, were we really as good as that?

1280
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,839
The problem with musicians is they're

1281
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:15,920
forever chasing their ghost. They can

1282
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,400
never be what they once were. All of a

1283
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,599
sudden, they're worried about their

1284
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:20,640
banker. They're worried about how

1285
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,599
they're going to pay this mortgage.

1286
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:24,000
They're worried about this and that and

1287
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,880
it's all related to being boxed in. And

1288
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,520
an artist has no boxes. An artist just

1289
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,480
sees and it opens up to them. And what

1290
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,520
money does and bankers do is they hone

1291
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,960
you in. They put shutters on your

1292
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,440
dreams. I will be very surprised if they

1293
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,359
take up the offer for 100 million or

1294
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:43,520
whatever it is to do a tour. I don't

1295
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,200
think that will happen. Robert Barner

1296
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,800
has been very dignified and gracious

1297
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,880
about all this. He can't go on there and

1298
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,240
be the Viking sex god every night. He He

1299
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,079
said he'd feel silly doing that. Well, I

1300
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:56,079
am retired. This is retiring compared to

1301
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:57,680
what I used to have a sock down me jeans

1302
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,319
and I was all over the place. Now, I

1303
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:02,720
take this as being early retirement.

1304
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,400
It's quite a nice way to to see

1305
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,319
yourself.

1306
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:08,480
Cheers. Okay. Thank you. Your voice

1307
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,200
broke for a second then.

1308
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,960
They were an amazing band with great

1309
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,440
players and great songs and that is

1310
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,640
their legacy. Those songs are cut above

1311
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,480
pretty well anything that was done at

1312
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,160
that time. There's no one out there like

1313
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,720
him. Everyone's been trying, you know,

1314
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:28,800
for years to do it. I can hear Led

1315
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,200
Zeppelin in a million bands from the

1316
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,440
most extreme American hardcore outfits

1317
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,359
to people like what Jack White gets up

1318
00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:38,359
to.

1319
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,640
They are a great example of longevity.

1320
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,480
Those albums they've made are like a

1321
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,839
Picasso. They are there forever. Led

1322
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:50,400
Zeppelin were indisputably the greatest

1323
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,680
rock band in the world and probably

1324
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,000
still are.

1325
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,400
Thank you.

1326
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,459
[Music]

1327
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,339
[Applause]

1328
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,320
Heat. Heat.

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Heat. Heat.

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